Wife Amanda Guglielmucci Stands By Fraud Pastor

Whilst Mike Guglielmucci apparently takes refuge from the porn and fraud storm at his parents home in Adelaide, his wife Amanda Guglielmucci comes to terms with her husbands lies and deceit from the confines of their home in Sydney Australia.

Yesterday marked the first public interview by Amanda Guglielmucci who is undergoing professional counselling services. Although this has been a severe shock the disgraced Pastor's wife is going to stand by her man. Amanda is quoted as saying in the Adelaide Advertiser, "I know he's not an evil man, there's not evil in his heart. I know that I love him. I know that much."

Whilst the shock of this entire matter sinks in, it seems Christians are following their belief to forgive Mike for his slide from grace. Obviously this news rocked both Planet Shakers where Pastor Mike Guglielmucci had his roots. It also taken a huge toll on both the Assembly of God Churches and Pentecostal Charismatic Christians in both Australia and the world.

Guglielmucci - Trouble in Pentecostal Paradise

A Christian lady (she'll remain anonymous) contacted me yesterday who worked in the Assemblies of God for many years. The one thing that stuck out in her email and made this such a profound statement was the following:

Unfortunately too much stuff goes on in the Pentecostal movement where stars are made out of people who are meant to be servants.

Forgiveness is just not reserved for a Christian. It is an action to move past personal hurt and pain, to get on with ones life. There is nothing wrong with forgiveness. Transpose this line of thought back to the Mike Guglielmucci cancer illness scam and that's probably why many Christian are feeling this emotion and calling it to action towards Mike right now.

So getting back to "Unfortunately too much stuff goes on in the Pentecostal movement where stars are made out of people who are meant to be servants."

My Thought For The Day...
If every man, woman and child are made in the likeness of God, and God lives in every man, woman and child according to the Bible. Then why do Pentecostal Charismatic Christians feel the need to place mere mortals; who are open to sin and who Jesus died for on the cross, onto pedestals. Is this action not a complete contradiction of the Bibles teachings...

Should Mike Guglielmucci Be Held Accountable Poll

Danny Guglielmucci Restitution Promise

Danny Guglielmucci the father of the disgraced Pastor Mike Guglielmucci has announced that any money given in good faith to Mike Guglielmucci "[We will] gladly pay it back if people want their money back, absolutely. We are glad to make restitution".

I was under the impression that all money raised from the bogus cancer fraud; that would also include sales of the song "Healer", that could not be returned was going to be donated to charity.

It's common knowledge now that Mike Guglielmucci is supposedly receiving psychiatric care and ongoing legal advice. However I was not aware that he may need to go to an overseas clinic.

Apart from the other million and one questions I have, the one that interests me right now is did Today Tonight pay Mike Guglielmucci and Danny Guglielmucci for their story? If yes how much and what's this money going to be used for?

I may sound like a unforgiving cynical b#stard to some and that's ok.

For the record, I didn't say people should not forgive Mike Guglielmucci. I think everyone deserves a break if they are genuine. What I find bizarre, is now I read that Mike maybe about to do an 'exit stage right' out of Australia. That is jump on a burner and head to some glorified, high priced OS rehab for porn junkies.

Or maybe he's just going to go lay on a secluded beach in the Bahamas for 6 - 12 months.

The people actually know what's really going on aren't about to say anything. Least that's my opinion.

Here's a thought, grab a 1Kg empty Milo can, cut a hole in the top so coins (preferably $50 & $100 notes) can be deposited, print a bogus donation banner, wrap that around the Milo tin and walk the streets collecting.

How long do you think it would take before anyone of us is handcuffed. Later to be found sitting in a Magistrates Court facing charges of deception and fraud?

My million dollar question is why should Mike Guglielmucci be treated any different?

Accountability Mike Guglielmucci Cancer Fraud

I've spent some time reading posts on a lot of Christian blogs in relationship to the Guglielmucci story. From what I can gather although people are still feeling burnt, hurt and conned, the majority of Charismatic Evangelist Christians are taking to forgiveness of what Mike did in connection to his terminal illness cancer fraud.

Personally I just don't get it. I mean I understand the "turn the other cheek" idea and that because we're human everyone is open to sin. But come on, who is kidding who here!

Having had first hand experience to the Shock and Awe tactics employed by some Charismatic Evangelist Pastors and Pentecostal Churches alike, I can in part understand why some Christians are taking the stand of outright support for Mike Guglielmucci and don't see why he should be accountable for scamming people. After all these type of pastors make it habit to quote twisted bible passages that make them untouchable, that gives them carte blanche`, accountable to no one.

What really disturbs me and ultimately shake my head in disbelief, is that in all the posts I've read, I've not seen one Christian make comment & ask when people like the Grandmother on a disability pension for instance is going to receive her $800 back!

Given the current attitudes, I would not be the least surprised to see Mike Guglielmucci eventually restored back into pastoral duties. It's not like that has not happen before with other wayward Charismatic Evangelist Christian Pastors, now is it!

In a closing thought and of course only my opinion, but, it begs me to ask why did it take so long for the porn addiction story to come out? Is this just another manufacture con? Reiterating nothing in connection to Charismatic Evangelist Christian Churches shock me. To me though the Guglielmucci porn addition justification just seems and reads a little to much like a bad American soap opera.

Pastor Michael Guglielmucci Healing Song Video

When YouTube discovered that Pastor Michael Guglielmucci had scammed Christians with his fake terminal cancer illness, they pulled the disgraced Michael Guglielmucci song Healing from YouTube. However the Healing video can been seen on the following link. Pastor Michael Guglielmucci Healing Video

Michael Guglielmucci

The charismatic Adelaide Pastor known for the song "Healer", turned Michael Guglielmucci into a world wide pop star among followers of the Evangelist Pentecostal faith movement.

Late last week it was revealed by the Assembly of God Church, that the then Pastor Michael Guglielmucci had faked his terminal cancer illness. In doing so had scammed and defrauded not only Australian Christians but also an audience of world wide Christian followers.

As of today the 25/08/2008 the Disgraced Michael Guglielmucci is in hiding. It's also been revealed that Michael Guglielmucci has also been addicted to porn since he was 12 years old. He currently seeking medical attention for this addition. No one has spoken to Michael Guglielmucci personally, all correspondence has thus far been addressed through his solicitor.

It does however beg a couple of immediate questions.

• What about the terminal cancer illness scam?
• Is Michael Guglielmucci going to be charged by the Adelaide police or at least and investigation commenced?
  

Last time I checked fraud is a criminal offence. It's the obtaining of goods or money by deception, which in the case of Michael Guglielmucci and his two year long terminal cancer illness scam, certainly points to the notion that a crime may have been committed.

Adelaide Pastor Addicted to Porn

Having been raised in a uniting church environment, I've always held the belief that these were more than a place of worship. In days gone by in Australian culture they were the cornerstone and moral grounding for many communities. Whether main stream church leaders identify as Ministers, Reverends, Fathers or any multitude of titles, they are generally held in high esteem.

If we look back to the early 80's a slow shift in attitudes towards main stream churches has taken place. Parishioners have fallen in numbers. Some main stream churches that once drew 300 people to a Sunday service have either closed their doors, or, are battling to keep their doors open.

The idea that people don't want to hear a monologue sermon, more so they don't want to hear the truth, seems to echo in every article I've read about the decline of main stream churches in Australia.

We live in a society where everything is disposable, including people. Most want a quick fix solution. Consumable items are wanted, not needed, and they are required yesterday. The drive for money, power, prestige consumes people. It can push families into financial stress and also break homes apart. This mindset seems to be the general Status Quo of life in Australia in the year 2008.

It's really no surprise to me that there has been a steep rise in popularity of Evangelism. The Pentecostal Charismatic movement is certainly alive and well in Australia today.

I believe the majority of people in our society still believe in hope. They actually want a better life, free of stress, worry and the weight of confusion that seems to enter most peoples lives at some point. Combine these fears with people such as Pastor Michael Guglielmucci and other Charismatic Pastors and your going to draw a large following pretty quickly because these people offer hope. They promise fulfilment of people's dreams.

But like so many Pentecostal Charismatic Pastors before Pastor Michael Guglielmucci they all have two negative flaws in common. One they are all human; open to temptations of the flesh; in Pastor Michael Guglielmucci it's a so called porn addiction. The other common denominator is they all believe they are above accountability for their own actions.

To me that's pretty damn obvious in the case with the Adelaide Pastor Michael Guglielmucci terminal illness fraud scam. The question of whether Pastor Michael Guglielmucci intends to make himself available to police has been asked many times since this story broke. However every time the question is asked, the answer is the same, "No", Pastor Michael Guglielmucci will not be making himself available to the police. Instead we hear he's in hiding because of his porn addiction.

The people who Pastor Michael Guglielmucci has scammed are not all well heeled (wealthy). For instance a grandmother on an disability pension, saved $800, to take her four year old grandson who has cerebral palsy to Sydney for a holiday. Instead she was so touched with the plight of Pastor Michael Guglielmucci she donated the entire $800.

Being addicted to porn is not a criminal offence. However orchestrating an eloborate hoax (terminal illness) and using this to scam and defraud people for money, is a criminal offence, period!

Having been a member of a Pentecostal Evangelist Charismatic Church, I know from first hand experience how they operate. The hope and promises they preach are nothing more than tools of trade for these shysters.

Pentecostal Evangelism in Australia is BIG business. However until people actually start to realise this I believe we are going to keep seeing repeat performances of Pastor Michael Guglielmucci scams and other falls from grace by these modern day Carney's.

Followers and supporters (cough... zealots) are beating the "turn the other cheek drum". Andrew Evens the former Family First MLC and incidentally also a Pastor at the Paradise Church in Adelaide stated "My gut feeling is that people will forgive him." Granted everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However saying something like this whilst your a Pastor of a church is like telling you parishioners who to vote for in an up coming election.

In so far as "turn the other cheek". From what I've seen first hand from a Charismatic Church Pastor the "turn the other cheek" was the complete opposite. It normally is for these type of Pastors. From my experiences it seems to be "do as I say not as I do".

Adelaide Pastor Terminal illness Scam

Christian City Church Whitehorse or the Christian City Churches are not connected in any way, shape of form to the scam.

Assemblies of God Pastor Michael Guglielmucci scammed a flurry of Christians into thinking he had a terminal illness. So bad was his deception that he also recorded a Pentecostal song the "Healer". Mr Guglielmucci went so far into his illness scam that on the recording of the "Healer" (a song released with the assistance of Hill Song Sydney), Mr Guglielmucci sang this song while connected to an oxygen tank.

This scam was brought to light by Pastor Michael Guglielmucci who attended the Australian Christian Churches executive meeting on Saturday the 16/08/2008. Immediately on hearing this news Pastor Michael Guglielmucci was striped of his credentials.

The Australian Christian Churches have began conducting an audit into Pastor Michael Guglielmucci bank accounts, funds and donations received for the Healer song he released with the Sydney Hill Song Group.

It's been purported that Hill Song has now acted on a copyright ownership clause connecting them to ownership of the song "Healer". Somehow disassociating Hill Song with Pastor Michael Guglielmucci, yet making Hill Song the legal copyright owner of the song "Healer".

If this is in fact true, I have to question why someone would do this? Obviously it's all about money. Pentecostal Evangelist money greed is nothing new, now is it!

Whilst many parishioners are obviously reeling from the shock. Others, or should the brain washed zealots who are srill unable to see the TRUTH, have set-up a Face book and are sending their support and prayers to Pastor Michael Guglielmucci.

Charismatic Spiritual Abuse

Unless you a complete moron, or worse, a brainwashed zealot of Christian City Church, you've probably entertained the idea that all does not seem kosher with these Charismatic Churches. Let me tell you your not alone. There is no denying that these Charismatic Evangelists operate their churches more like big business than a spiritual haven for the lost, the fallen or the disadvantaged.

From my own personal experience at Christian City Church Whitehorse (aka C3Whitehorse, i-connect Vermont, c3i Vermont -- the list goes on), it was pretty damn obvious that when I saw and identify the we want to hug the world type people props, that the smoke and mirrors employed to lead new comers into a false sense of security and trust was as plain as the nose on my face.

Fortunately the catalyst for this realisation was from being scammed by Christian City Church Whitehorse. There are many others who are not so fortunate. Those who literally get sucked into the overwhelming and incestuous juggernaut known as Christian City Church International.

Spiritual abuse is alive and well, it's most certainly making a nice profit from the backs of its followers under the guise of Senior Pastor Peter McHugh at Christian City Church Whitehorse.

What is Charismatic Spiritual Abuse?
This type of abuse is no different (in my opinion) to any other type of abuse. It affects people, it removes choices, and it most definitely takes away that human spirit that lives in everyone. Even common law recognises that leaders of a church have the ability to invoke influence over their flock. With this in mind and based on my experience with Christian City Church, it's of no surprise that this type of influence is being used by Senior Pastor Peter McHugh of CCCW.

For those that don't know Pastor Peter McHugh is a qualified Social Worker. From my experience social workers at the very least have a basic grounding in psychology. It shouldn't take a road scholar to realise that this type of knowledge into human nature could easily be abused in the wrong hands. Or more so in the hands of someone who is only concerned with using a Charismatic Church as a front for making money.

I've seen many instance where people are indoctrinated in the fold of Christian City Church Whitehorse. To the point where I witness one lady holding the firm belief that Christian City Church was the only true place that God considered anyone being a true Christian. So convinced was she that her belief was true that she openly state "Even though my daughter attends church, she's not found God yet because she does not attend Christian City Church Whitehorse."

Spiritual abuse as far as I'm concerned is alive and active at CCCW.

People who question the acts of the pastor are either ignored, or in my case, labelled insane and suffering from a mental problem. Of course this type of character assignation is rife throughout these type of Charismatic Cult Type Churches. Another clear example of spiritual abuse.

Any pastor of a church that holds them self non accountable for their own actions, is clearly demonstrating a arrogance that is in direct opposition to the teaching of the bible. However in the case of what I've experienced at Christian City Church Whitehorse and at the hands of Pastor Peter McHugh, being accountable for any actions of a dubious nature and or those that have the stench of misguided and self righteous superiority are all ok because both CCCW and Pastor Peter McHugh are untouchable and not accountable for anything they do.

People who commit spiritual abuse also have these traits of non accountability for their own actions. Yet demand that their followers adhere to a set of guidelines and loyalty towards the the church. Followers on Christian City Church Whitehorse give not only an abundance of their money but also their time.

Most people never see through the smoke and mirrors for years, by this time they've given thousands of dollars in tithe, have worked untold hours for the church and at most times done this at their own expense. When in reality they the committed charismatic follower are merely being conned. Their money like their own life is being sucked dry by an unscrupulous church pastor who only has the belief in their own self indulgence.

Christian City Church Canberra Scam

After checking my stats (which I do on a daily basis), these also including checking the numerous keywords used to find this blog on the search engines. Anyway...I found another Parliamentary post about another Christian City Church, this time CCC Canberra. Although it's a bit dated, it still demonstrates the sheer lack of accountability and integrity of Christian City Church.

Christian City Church Canberra Scam

This scam was perpetrated by Pastor Paul Whittaker the pastor at the time of CCC Canberra. He obviously had a vision to build a new church (how familiar is that), however did not have the funds to do so. Instead he convinced many families of CCC Canberra to put up their homes as collateral for the $1.2 million dollars at the State Bank who gave CCC Canberra the funds needed for the building of the new Christian City Church Canberra.

In addition to these people putting up their homes as security to the $1.2 million dollar loan, some people, who btw were not wealthy had also donated many thousands of dollars to the new Christian City Church Canberra building fund.

One such couple Bernie and Linda Cabone members of CCC Canberra not only gave their family home as collateral but also gave $17,000 (I believe this was their life savings).

Unfortunately for all these families and also those who had injected money, Christian City Church Canberra at the hands of Pastor Paul Whittaker went broke. Thus leaving all these families and their homes in debt to the State Bank.

Pastor Paul Whittaker washed his hands on the entire situation and turned his back on these families. Instead of facing the music he was last seen flying the coup and heading to Sydney.

Money is Big Church Business

I've not posted for a while, but I see that the search engine listings are growing...lol For instance I've got a nice spot 7 out of 72,000,000 sites on google.

If I've failed to mention my main business exercise conducts search engine optimisation for larger corporations. That is we get sites into the top 10 of all major search engines. This topic btw is a walk in the park for getting search engine rankings...

Well back to the topic of Money is Big Church Business.

When Christian City Church Whitehorse were holding their funding drive for the new rooks road church, aptly named build for life, it was said that they raised $900,000 from the VIP dinner. However the purported profit of $38 Million Dollars (I assume tax free) amassed by CCCW in 2003 - 2004 was never mentioned. Yet in contrast the "we are so poor plate" would make its rounds many times in every church service at Christian City Church Whitehorse. There was always some reason why they "CCCW" needed money.

It's pretty obvious that a Church can mean big business.

Hypothetically if one was an atheist and that someone or group of atheists held no qualms about operating a Church or group of Churches with the purpose of making lots of money then you could see why they'd always be finding new ways and making up new buzzword purposes for acquiring money from church followers.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Christian City Church Whitehorse or any Christian City Church is doing this.What I saying is that when I attended CCCW I found it strange that no one service would go by without the begging plates being passed around less that two times.

I also find it strange, if not a little dodgy, that if the profits of CCCW were in fact 38 million dollars for the tax year of 2003 - 2004 why this information was not divulged.

It would seem that if CCCW made a 38 million dollar church business profit, why hit church followers up for cash all the time.

Integrity Say What You Think

I often wonder if people actually know what integrity means. It seems to be another word that is thrown about loosely these days, a buzz word, something that sounds good on a resume` or being used in a Church sermon for instance.

Obviously I receive a far few comments posted to this blog, as I've said before all comments are moderated. If it was open I'd have a throng of Christian City Church zealots posting all kinds of misguided, brainwashed crap here.

Keeping this is mind I still receive comments from people who must think that their posts are going to gain instant access. However when they realise that their post(s) are moderated I usually receive a quick response or even an email saying something along the lines of I've got some juicy info for you about Christian City Church. I'm happy for you to use it but please keep my name out of it.

These type of emails or posts come from people who are still active members of Christian City Church. What I find perplexing is they are not petty accounts, certain things that either a Christian City Church Minister is or has done that doesn't sit well with these people, or, they have some other beef with Christian City Church.

Lets transpose this back to integrity. Why on earth don't people just stand up for what they think. If something is bugging you and you know it's not right then say something about it. Letting something slip because you don't want to stir trouble is the reason why there are so many dodgy things happening these days. People simply don't have the balls to say what's really on their mind. Instead they'll throw around words like integrity and think their doing ok.

Just grow some balls and stand up for your own integrity!

Real Men Have Balls

In print,on YouTube even on the ccc.org.au web site the RealMen CCC Conference looks very inspiring. Then again what presentation wouldn't if you throw that kind of money about!

For someone who is well aware of how this Cult like Church operates, I personally find the RealMen propaganda disturbing, especially the type of claims found in the RealMen 2008 web page. I quote:

"DEVELOPING CHARACTER - through consistency, responsibility, decisiveness and accountability."

One of the speakers at the RealMen Conference is Pastor/Minister Phil Pringle. I find it very hard to understand how he can be an expert on the subjects of:

• Responsibility
• Accountability
• Integrity
  

When he could not show simple manners in response to not one (1) BUT three (3) emails I sent him regarding the Minister Peter McHugh/CCCare/CCCW/Bogus Welfare Worker Scam.

Reiterating not one reply, not even a response from his Personal Assistant nor the General Manager of Christian City Church Oxford Falls. Who btw received the third (3'rd) email via Carbon Copy.

Pretty damn pathetic show of being RealMen wouldn't you say!

The comical thing, these so called Real Men who (in my opinion) are just idiots wrapped in morons don't have the b#lls to respond to an email, but will visit the blog on at least a daily basis.

RealMen & Real Men

What is RealMen? Are RealMen Real?

Who are RealMen? What does RealMen mean to you?

How many RealMen can you fit into CCCW?

Are there any RealMen at CCC Oxford Falls?

Why would RealMen attend a RealMen Conference?

RealMen sounds like a buzz word excuse to get more money from Christian City Church Men?

Do RealMen have integrity?

Do CCC Real Men hold any concept of what integrity means?

Are you attending the Australian RealMen Conference?

RealMen Conference

What is with Christian City Church and their use of Men in titles?
I mean we've got the RealMen Conference, which really sounds like some bad tasting 80's gig!
It also re-minds me of the Joe Jackson song Real Men.

Here is a verse from those lyrics:
See the nice boys - dancing in pairs
Golden earring golden tan
Blow-wave in the hair
Sure they're all straight - straight as a line
All the gays are macho
Cant you see their leather shine

(no derogative meanings are implied towards gay men by the use of the above lyrics in relationship to the Christian City Church RealMen Conference).

Christian City Care named its welfare work program Men At Work (wonder if that was Trademark infringement)

Men At Work - Land Down under verse:
Lying in a den in Bombay
With a slack jaw, and not much to say
I said to the man, "Are you trying to tempt me
Because I come from the land of plenty?"

That sounds a bit too much like a Money sermon from Christian City Church Whitehorse.

CCC RealMen Conference

The Christian City Church Real Men Conference is being held at CCC Oxford Falls on July 25 to July 26 2008.

I'd expect Senior Minister Peter McHugh from CCCW to be at the Real Men Conference. Which begs me to question if he'll be addressing the Men at the RealMen Conference. If so then that's rather ironic when you consider his actions towards standing up to his responsibilities are anything but what one would expect from a Real Man, much less from RealMen.

Greg French the assistant Pastor at CCC Oxford Falls is the overseer for the 2008 RealMen Conference. Does Pastor Greg French honestly believes in Real Man values! Does Pastor Greg French have integrity? Lets hope that his integrity is a lot higher that you know who from Christian City Church Whitehorse.

Minister Phil Pringle is the boss of Pastor Greg French. Phil Pringle didn't have the common courtesy to even contact me when I sent him an email requesting his assistance about the CCCare dodgy welfare worker scam and the other issues raised.

I'm sure Pastor Greg French will be viewing this blog at some point.

Lets see who at this Christian City Church RealMen Conference has the b#lls to stand up and act like a Real Man!

Christian City Church International Cult Tendencies

Christian City Church Whitehorse the Dirty Facts - Search Engine Listing Stats (02/07/2008):

Total Blog Pages: 148, with a daily increase on average of 9 pages.

• 73+ pages indexed on Google - Google page 1 listings: 95% of all ccc blog pages.
• 81+ pages indexed on Yahoo -Yahoo page 1 listings: 93% of all ccc blog pages.
• 53+ pages indexed on MSN - MSN page 1 listings: 91% of all ccc blog pages.
  

I've said it before I'll say it again, in my opinion Christian City Church Whitehorse and all Christian City Churches for that matter are nothing more than money making corporations.

When Christian City Church Whitehorse was on one of their many drives for cash to build the Rooks Road Church in Vermont, it's been said they raised 900K in one night at a VIP function. I was in the 11am Sunday church service when Senior Minister Peter McHugh told everyone that their VIP's gave 900K.

Real Churches don't have VIP's...However, Money making Corporations do!

99.999% of Church Cults are about money.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck!

The more I dig (the world wide web is a wonderful thing) into the background that surrounds Christian City Church Whitehorse I'm still amazed at the information that I find.

As I've mentioned previously I've spoken to ex CCC members, the more I realise the powers that control most Christian City Church entities wear different hats for different occasions. (hence the hat icon in the address bar). In my opinion based on the dealings I've experienced (first hand), Senior Ministers of CCC talk the talk but they certainly don't walk the walk.

The Senior Minister of Christian City Church Whitehorse in my opinion...is the BIGGEST w#nker of them all.

If you or anyone you know is connected to any of these Churches that are also connected to any of these entities run the other way at a fast rate of knots. Don't forget your purse or wallet ;-)

• CCC
• 3Ciglobal
• Christian City Church International
• iConnect
• Christian City Church

If your a Christian City Church Zealot does my blog offended you?
Does it cause you umbrage?

In that case you can write directly to Senior Minister Peter McHugh.


Because he is the reason this blog is here.

If Senior Minister Peter McHugh of Christian City Church Whitehorse aka CCC Vermont, aka Rooks Rd Church, aka C3iglobal Vermont...blah...blah...blah actually walked the walk with God as he claims then he'd have done the right thing from day one.

However, Minister Peter McHugh stuck his head in the sand and tried to bury these shocking events as told in my own words and with factual documented proof in this Christian City Church Whitehorse Blog.

Even when given the opportunity to right the wrongs last month (June 2008), instead of addressing them in a manner befitting a Minister of God, he chose to play semantics.

Christian City Church

Christian City Church is the brainchild of Minister Phil Pringle, who is also the Senior Minister of CCC Oxford Falls. With over 200 Christian City Churches world wide they are also known as C3iglobal.

To refresh the current situation pertaining to this Christian City Church blog, it involves Christian City Church Whitehorse and the welfare organisation Christian City Care. It directly concerns a Mr Ryan who was employed by the Board of Directors of CCCare/CCCW in 2003 to be the CCCare Welfare Worker.

Fact is Mr Ryan was not a qualified Welfare Worker.

Fact is he was unqualified to perform the duties of a Welfare Worker.

Unqualified means:
Not qualified; not fit; lacking requisite qualifications: unqualified for the job.

Mr Ryan's position within CCCare was not just a matter of accessing clients for food hampers or to source out accommodation or material aid. What makes this matter troubling is some of the clients Mr Ryan was dealing with had alcohol and drug abuse issues. Some clients also had mental issues, abuse issues and what I'd call substantial life management issues.

Mr Ryan was given carte blanche authority by CCCare to assist these clients with the above issues.

For instance, I was witness to many occasions when Mr Ryan bought alcohol for alcoholics. A number of times he'd taken clients who were alcoholics to the pub. He'd even formed friendships with clients outside of CCCare and would invite clients to his home for a BBQ and drinks.

Most people would realise that you don't give an alcoholic alcohol. Transpose this to a Welfare Worker and they would certainly have the training to know that giving alcohol to an alcoholic is a no no. But Mr Ryan the (so called) welfare worker for Christian City Care had no clue!

In another display of the CCCare's bogus welfare workers inapt abilities, he had a client (lets call her Ann).

Anne came from an abusive relationship, had a history of being incarcerated, had a teenager son (who was removed from here care) and had a history of drug abuse. At the time Ann was on the methadone program.

Ann was being housed in a medium term women's accommodation program. A two bedroom unit in an eastern suburb of Melbourne. The apparent residential conditions of this unit was that Ann must live there by herself.

However Mr Ryan had a problem. Two of his CCCare clients were desperately in need of accommodation. In additions one of these clients had a drug abuse issue, whilst the other was an alcoholic. Instead of respecting the fact that Ann had issues also, he manipulated Ann into allowing these two men to reside at her unit.

Not only did this place Ann at risk of relapsing back to her substance abuse, but, it also directly jeopardised Ann's accommodation conditions.

Unfortunately not long after these two men moved into Ann's residence trouble commenced. Ann began drinking and smoking drugs. When both men were asked to leave, one complied, whilst the other turned nasty and reported Ann to the organisation that had given her the housing.

Ann's return to drugs, could have been prevented and the obvious risks should have been avoided.

When you have a welfare organisation (CCCare) passing Mr Ryan off as a Social/Welfare Worker, (and allowing this person to do the same), situations such as what happen to Ann, the alcoholics and any client of Christian City Care who dealt with Mr Ryan (CCCare bogus Welfare Worker) is an inevitable outcome.

It's a pity that Mr Ryan did not hold insight to realise he was in over his head. It's also sad state of affairs when a registered Welfare Organisation in Victoria, CCCare, were incapable of seeing the damage that Mr Ryan was/ had caused to clients of CCCare.

Unfortunately both Christian City Care and Christian City Church Whitehorse refuse to take any accountability for Mr Ryan's actions.

Let's just hope that due to Mr Ryan's lack of qualifications and bogus Social/Welfare Worker status, he has not caused any of his CCCare clients who suffered mental illness, alcohol/drug abuse issues or other serious problems any physical harm, abuse or worse.

As I was also a client of Mr Tony Ryan, Christian City Church Whitehorse being a Church of 3Ciglobal and Christian City Churches, that Senior Minister Phil Pringle needs to address the lack of accountability at CCCW and CCCare.

Both Minister Phil Pringle and Christian City Church Oxford Falls have been advised on three separate occasions about these welfare issues. However to date no response has been received.

CCCW CCCare Welfare Worker Scam

Maybe I just hold different values but I find it hard to comprehend that no one from Oxford Falls Church has contacted me. This begs the question, what could they (CCC Oxford Falls) or more to the point, what could Senior Minister Phil Pringle be afraid of?

Although I had a brief contact with Senior Minister Peter McHugh of Christian City Church Whitehorse, he decided to turn his back on this issue again and bury his head in the sand once more. May what I've dug up on CCCare/CCCW this time will have me being contacted to resume talks.

Remove the emotion from this Christian City Church blog and your left with black and white facts!

CCCW/CCCare Facts:
Tony Ryan Listed as CCCare Social Worker on the CCCW web site 2004.
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Tony Ryan listed as CCCare Social Worker on the CCCW web site 2005. (29/06/08 archive down)
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Speaking of the CCCare Bogus Social Worker. Guess what I found CCCW? Give up!...
I found the Privacy Policy for CCCW/CCCare that was current when I was a client of CCCare.

To view the CCCW/CCCare Privacy Policy Click Here. (NB must have a pdf viewer)

Could I possibly have anything better. Well actually...Yes I do!

In my web travels I've uncovered the CCCW/CCCare June/July 2005 (What's On) Newsletter. Big deal you say. Hmmm actually it is a big deal when you view the 2'nd last page below. Look closely to the Job Description for Tony Ryan. It states Welfare Worker. However above states Social Worker.

CCCW June/July 2005 What's On Newsletter:
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Mr Tony Ryan is NOT A Welfare Worker. PERIOD!

Those who have been following this blog, may recall, the signed letter I received from Senior Minister Peter McHugh Chairman of the CCCare and CCCW Board of Directors (dated 28'th June 2005).

"We further confirm advice to you that Mr Ryan is employed by our organisation on a part-time basis as an unqualified welfare worker."

Letter From CCCare/CCCW Chairman of the Board (dated 28'th June 2005).
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In Australia you can not be an unqualified welfare worker. Further factual proof of the CCCare Social Worker, Welfare Worker scam.

CCC Sideshow Carney

It's unfortunate that Senior Minister Peter McHugh of Christian City Church Whitehorse (aka CCC Vermont), who is also a qualified Social Worker, has decided to retreat back to the sand pit and to stick his head firmly back in it!

Though when one speaks to both ex CCC members and ex CCC employees of Christian City Church this type on behaviour and practice of non-accountability shines through in each of their accounts.

In my opinion the Senior Minister of CCCW is nothing more than a modern day Sideshow Carney.

• There is nothing God like about the address of these issues by Senior Minister Peter McHugh.
  
• There is nothing God like about his lack of accountability.
• Zero empathy that I got shafted by the CCCare Bogus Social Worker.

It seems that I'll have to turn up the heat on the blog to grab some more attention to these issues raised about the CCCare Scam and CCCW Scam for than matter. I don't mind airing more of the Christian City Church dirty laundry as I'm sure people would love to read about CCC dodgy business.

If you'd like to resume talks you know where to find me Senior Minister Peter McHugh ;-)

Minister Peter McHugh Contact

Even though I'd sent out numerous emails (about 60 in total), I'd still not received a response from the Chairman of the board for CCCare/CCCW Senior Minister Peter McHugh. So as of last Friday I decided to send him an email. This however was harder than first thought of because all correspondence had to go through the P.A (Personal Assistant) for the Minister.

Anyway the email was written and sent.

Surprisingly enough the following Monday (16/06/2008) I received a direct response from Senior Minister Peter McHugh. The shock of being contacted was finally over taken by this sarcastic remark, "I was wondering if you had considered putting both of your attachments to this email on your blog and allowing people to make up their own minds."

The attachments referred to above, were posted to this blog on the 29/06/2008 located here:
http://www.liquidpixel.biz/2008/05/chairman-cccare-board-letter.html

http://www.liquidpixel.biz/2008/05/cccare-welfare-worker-client-loans.html

I included both original docs copies in the email to the PA, just in case Minister Peter McHugh had misplaced them.

My response was sarcastic, "Maybe you need to take a longer look at the blog, else put your glasses on, because both attached Docs were added to the blog in May 2008."

It seemed pretty obvious he didn't bank on the fact that I'd post these to back up my story. Sometimes I really wonder where some people's heads are at. What idiot would start a blog and make claims that I have, without including documents of fact to back these claims...Sheesh!

The preceding response from Minister Peter McHugh was a simple sentence, "What is that you are wanting from me?"

I sent my reply back. In a nut shell it pointed directly to CCCare taking responsibility and being accountable for their unqualified Social/Welfare Workers actions. I also included the lose of wages ($48,499.85) due to Mr Ryan's inability to perform his duty of care and so forth.

Well Tuesday came and went & so did Wednesday, but no response from Minister Peter McHugh. Can I assume he has chosen to retired to the sand pit, again!

To be factual I did send a further two emails, yet although I receive confirmation that they'd been opened, I did not receive any response from Minister Peter McHugh for these either.

From where I'm sitting right now the lack of response, especially, the pre-empt direct question to what I was seeking, and then not having the common courtesy to reply. Is just another typical example of the way I've been treated throughout this entire CCCare/CCCW screw up!

It's not my fault that:

• CCCare employed an unqualified person to take on the role of Social/Welfare Worker for their welfare organisation.
  
• CCCare allowed Mr Ryan carte blanche on welfare clients of the CCCare welfare organisation.

The reason Social/Welfare workers have qualifications is because they not only learn how to treat clients with different needs, but are also educated in the code of ethical conduct & professional etiquette.

If you have to blame someone, anyone, look upon your own stupidity. The reason all this happened is due to CCCare hiring an unqualified person for the job of their Social/Welfare Worker.

What is totally amazing, or really damn sad, take your pick, I've discovered that Senior Minister Peter McHugh is a Qualified Social Worker.

On that note, I'll leave you with an extract from Senior Minister Peter McHugh's by "allowing people to make up their own minds" and forming their own opinion on what that fundamentally says about both the leader of Christian City Church Whitehorse and CCCare.

Jesus Camp or Child Evangelist Brainwashing

Since commencing this blog, I've discovered an entire gambit of Evangelist Pentecostal topics. Was doing some google research and came accross this disturbing video on YouTube, entitled Jesus Camp - Brain Washing Highlights.

Jesus camp was the brainchild of Pastor Becky Fisher. Although the camp has now been closed, it gives a pretty clear understanding of the brainwashing like tactics that were used on these innocent children.

CCC Zealot Contact

Maybe this is just pure coincidence, however yesterday I was in direct contact with Pastor Peter McHugh (Chairman of the Board for CCCare and CCCW). Today I received both an email response and two blog comments from the person I spoke of in the following blog entry:

http://www.liquidpixel.biz/2008/06/born-again-christian-truth-issues.html

I'd sent this person an email to say that I was no longer interested in their offer of assistance because I felt he held a direct conflict of interest. Which in my opinion could be manipulated to service a personal agenda.

BTW this is the nice little extract of the email I just received from the person (17/06/2008) who claimed is going to be a Pastor for Christian City Church Hobart.

At a guess he just received notification that I'd rejected his blog comments...lol

"btw i dare you to put my name up there... infact i give you permission! because the second you do i'm going to sue your ass off! Can you you spell slander dick head!?"

Charming conduct, I sure hope you have no intention of using this language when addressing Christian's at Christian City Church Hobart...

Another prime example of how a Born Again Christian behaves when you tell them NO!

Truth is, I (me personally) simply don't trust anyone connected to or involved with Christian City Church. This little outburst, temper tantrum above only confirms my personal beliefs.

I've had a bogus Social/Welfare Work